The Durban Climate Change Conference

Consider the following quote by NDP environment critic Megan Leslie, in response to the news that Canada is withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol: “It’s like we’re the kid who’s failing the class so we have to drop it before that happens.” Respond to this quote.

What is Ms. Leslie saying? For what reasons do you agree with her comparison? For what reasons do you disagree? What is your opinion of the government’s decision to withdraw from Kyoto? Give reasons to support your response.

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Matthew Z

Gilpin Elementary , Burnaby , BC
Mr. Barron
Whenever I read articles it's good to know that Canada's doing something to help. That Canada's not a problem in the world. But when I heard this quote it felt like Canada was chickening out. Like it doesn't want to help the world it's living on. You can't just give up on a friend that you promised to help out. You must follow through with your promise. It's embarrassing to know I live in a country that doesn't commit to its promise.

Adam L

Legacy Public School , Markham , ON
Mr. Carlisle
What I think she is trying to say is that although Canada is trying to reduce its emissions, our efforts are not paying off and we are failing, so we need to drop out of the Kyoto Protocol. I think she is also trying to say that Canada is trying its best to support Kyoto, but just cannot pay the fees, so they needed to drop out. My personal feelings to this quote is that I agree with Ms. Leslie's thinking because Canada is all about commitment, so if we already know that we cannot commit to this agreement or are trying our best but not improving, we need to drop out before we have to pay unnecessary fees.

Emily Z

Kennedy Public School , Toronto , Ontario
Grace Chan
In this quote made by NDP environment critic Megan Leslie, it is trying to say that Canada is like a failing kid that needs to get out of that particular class so he/she doesn’t get the unpleasant mark. In a sense it is a way to escape something you don’t want or don’t want to see. As for Canada, we want to withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol because we don’t want to pay the $14 billion in penalties for failing to reach the Kyoto targets. Also, cutting emissions would hurt the country’s economy. Even though the Kyoto Protocol is all about helping the Earth (and for the future/future generations), as an individual country, advantages for ourselves would generally be a higher priority than of the world as a whole, because that’s just how it is. That is probably the reason for why Canada is choosing this path; because it affects our country in an unwanted way. For this reason, I agree with Ms. Leslie’s comparison. On the flipside, I disagree because a student in school is very different from a country like Canada in the world. As a student, whether you quit school or not, that is you own decision, your own problem. It doesn’t affect anyone else nor have someone to blame other than you. But a country is very different. For a democratic and country like Canada, Stephen Harper isn’t the only one making decisions. He gets advice from other politicians and it is many opinions put together. In addition, the decision isn’t only for the country itself, but for the citizens too. Even as a developed country, we could still use the $14 billion on other issues such as homelessness. Also, it affects the world. If Canada doesn’t reduce the amount of emissions released, Earth will be more and more polluted, and climate change would be more and more severe. In fact, in this case Canada isn’t the one getting bad results, because it doesn’t lower the economy. When a student drops out, the results crash onto you, but for what Canada is doing, they fall onto the world and good for themselves. Thus in this point of view, I don’t agree with this quote. As to my opinion of Canada’s withdrawal from the Kyoto Protocol, I agree since Canada was one of the participants who met at the 2011 UN Climate Change Conference in Durban, South Africa. Canada gave up Kyoto, true, but instead signed a treaty for a better replacement so I believe it was worth it- although if we didn’t, I’d rather we still be a part of Kyoto. Because helping a little bit at a time is better than helping none; especially to our own priceless planet.

Anna W.

Kennedy Public School , Toronto , Ontario
Ms.Chan
Ms. Leslie is trying to send a message to the people about Canada’s part in withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol, a protocol initiated by the UN climate change group, aimed towards fighting global warming. And she does not approve. She’s representing Canada, as a student who’s already failing, referencing Canada’s goal in the Kyoto Protocol, and then they drop out, which they did, and give up before they get back their report card to save themselves the embarrassment. I definitely agree with her comparison of Canada. Even though Canada claims to be very environmentally friendly, Prime Minister Steven Harper has not paid much attention to anything that is concerning the environment. Our land is among the best in the world, and we are doing nothing to conserve it. Yet we are among the world’s top greenhouse gas-emitting countries, taking up to 2%, and 8th place in the world’s emission. Even during the Kyoto Protocol, Canada’s energy levels did not decrease, but increased by a whopping 17% since 1997, when the Kyoto protocol was first brought up. This just shows how serious the government is on actually protecting the environment. And since these numbers aren’t good, Canada decides to drop out to save themselves from being labelled as “Failed.” But the government uses the struggling economy as the excuse for not doing anything. Canada has the second worst record of the 25 countries part of the OECD. If I was to refute, then I would put out the following reasons. One, before we get into environmental issues, we first need to tackle the struggling economy. Because if we don’t have a strong, steady economy, then how in the world are going to find the money to fund eco-friendly projects. After we’ve established a good base, we can work our way up from there. I would also say that the penalties are “radical and irresponsible” saying it would cost Canadian taxpayers $14 Billion. As Environment Minister Pete Kent said, “It is not in Canada’s interest to be a part of this. Kyoto is in Canada’s past.” My opinion of the government withdrawing from Kyoto is not very nice. I think they should not have dropped out, and continued to try to meet their goal. Canada is a very well developed country, and has always had an excellent reputation internationally, as it is looked as the “nicest and coolest” country, voted by other countries. But by withdrawing from Kyoto, it has many countries, even China looking down on us, urging us to come back. The decision to leave Kyoto behind destabilizes the promise of action on the climate crisis. This is a further signal threat the Harper Government is not concerned about the environment at all. If Prime Minister Harper is so concerned by international relationships between Canada and the rest of the world, he would not have made this decision. It seriously questions its credibility in dealing with the threat of climate change. It also sends the message that Canada is not a trustworthy nation, and “deals with bad faith,” according to Elizabeth May. I think that Canada doesn’t really think for itself. It always seem to be following whatever the U.S. does. If they go, then Canada goes. It’s like it can’t make its own decisions- it rely on other, bigger countries to make a decision, and decide to follow. Officials have admitted to this, but they say it’s because of the “integrated nature of the economies.” The government sees that if the world’s top largest carbon emitters are not part of this plan, it’s not going to work, and that’s why Canada’s decided to drop out. I think it would be reasonable to compare Canada to a teenager, desperate to fit in with the crowd, so they do whatever it takes, even if it’s not good for their own health. So in general, I think Canada’s decision to withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol was certainly not the best one, and I hope that Canada can think of another way to redeem itself on an international level when it comes to environmental crisis, and we all know that our world’s climate has changed more drastically in the past 100 years than in the past 2000 years.

Curtis C.

Kennedy Public school , Toronto , Ontario
Ms. Chan
The Kyoto Protocol was to be built to slow down climate change and reduce the amount of greenhouse gasses. But, has the Protocol failed to do its job to help save the environment? Let's figure it out. Ms. Leslie is comparing the Kyoto Protocol to a kid who is failing class and has to drop it before it happens. Why I agree with Ms. Leslie’s comparison is because Canada is referred as a child. And by leaving the treaty, it would mean that Canada wouldn’t have to pay the penalty for the Treaty they are in. Canada is just trying to avoid failing from reaching its goal instead of paying 14 billion dollars as penalty for not reaching their goal. Why I disagree with Ms. Leslie’s comparison is because if Canada chose to pay the penalty, it wouldn’t affect just one person, it would affect all the Canadian families. It’s like if a kid was failing class but didn’t drop out, it wouldn’t just affect him, it would affect the whole class average. This means that if Canada decided to pay the penalty, then all the families living in Canada would have to pay 14 billion dollars to pay the penalty. This also means that taxes would rise, making the Canadians mad. In my opinion, I believe that Canada should withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol. That is because if you were to pay the penalty of the Kyoto Protocol, which didn’t really help reduce the amount of greenhouse gasses at all, then this means it would be a waste of money. As a matter of fact, the Kyoto Protocol was to reduce emissions to about 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2012. But instead of decreasing, the amount of greenhouse gasses increased. Once again, I agree Canada should withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol since Canada is just trying to avoid failing from reaching a goal that might not even be successful in reducing emissions in the future. In conclusion, there are many different opinions about Canada withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol. But in my opinion, I believe Canada should withdraw from the Protocol since 1. Canada would have to pay a penalty of 14 billion dollars to a idea that might not be successful, 2. If Canada were to pay the penalty, it wouldn’t just affect one person but would affect all Canadian families, and lastly 3. Instead of reducing the amount of emission, it increased greenhouse gasses, which could leave permanent damage to our environment. It’s up to us to decide, whether we continue or withdraw the Kyoto Protocol. If the future needs to change before it’s too late, then now is the time to act.

Melissa K

Kennedy PS. , Toronto , Ontario
Ms. Chan
Megan Leslie, an NDP environment critic from Halifax, had something to say in response to the news of Canada withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol; she quoted “ It’s like we’re the kid who’s failing the class so we have to drop it before that happens” I think Ms. Leslie is trying to explain that Canada is dropping out of the Kyoto Protocol because we are failing to meet the requirements of the emissions that we couldn’t drive to a low level. And if we couldn’t do that by 2012, Canada would have to pay the penalty of $14 billion. Because we were failing, the government thought withdrawing was the right thing to do, and therefore, we wouldn’t have to pay the gigantic sum of money. I agree with Megan Leslie’s comparison because it really goes with what our government was choosing to do [withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol], and did. I think her quote goes quite well with Peter Kent’s (Canada’s environment minister) statements as well. Mr. Kent said, that since Canada is not meeting the requirements of the treaty, to reduce emissions to about five percent, by withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol before the treaty was over, Canada would not have to pay the penalty of $14 billion. I think Ms. Leslie opposes the government’s choice of having Canada withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol because to her, it was misleading and I completely agree with her choice. By withdrawing, Canada is simply trying to avoid the penalty, and the situation, rather than trying to find a solution and tackling the problem. In my opinion, I think that the government’s decision to withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol was not a decent and helpful choice. I believe that if Canada, at least tried to come up with a solution to reduce emissions, they might not have had to plan their withdrawal. This decision might also affect the future government’s choices about climate change and global warming. By withdrawing, Canada will not be helping out in taking action against climate change (as the United Nations were trying to have their participants do) because our government is trying to avoid the penalty. Also if Canada withdrew from the Protocol, it would damage their reputation, because others will think of us as irresponsible for the environment. I believe that Canada should never have withdrawn from the Kyoto Protocol, but instead, should’ve tried to tackle the problem. The largest violators in Canada would be factories. I think they should use less fossil fuels and coal and more green power (or green energy). I would also like to suggest that since they are major polluters, the government should put policies and regulations on the workers, and the factory itself. For example, the government could make a rule like: if the factory emits pollution more than a certain amount, the factory would have to pay a fine. The government should also invest more money to be able to purchase more green energies or reusable energy like: solar, wind, and hydropower. All in all…we all live under the same roof; therefore let’s take good care of our Earth so that future generations can have a great place to live in.

Anthony M

Gilpin Elementary , Burnaby , British Columbia
Mr. Barron
The Quote “It’s like we’re the kid who’s failing the class so we have to drop it before that happens.” fits Canada’s situation perfectly. By dropping out of the Kyoto Protocol, we totally broke our promise of lowering emissions and didn't want to pay, so we quit, just like a kid dropping out of class because they were failing. Canada quitting did not help the big problem, Global warming is still going on. Canada just backed out of its promise to help stop it. We can stop Global warming but we need everyone to help. We can’t run away from our problems, we have to work together. We all live on this planet and it is all of our responsibility to take care of it.

Dale H

Gilpin Elementary , Burnaby , British Columbia
Mr.Baron
I completely agree with this quote,Canada doesn't want to have to pay the price for failing the contract it signed up for. So it quits before it has to. But if we want a safe environment for now and in the future, we all have to work together and help each other, or pay the price. Canada needs to step up and lower its pollution levels instead of giving up on what matters.

Eula L

Gilpin , Burnaby , British Columbia
Mr. Barron
I think that Ms. Leslie is saying that since were failing, we need to make a change instead of dropping class. I think that Canada should cut their emissions to the levels promised because they signed the Kyoto and said that they would. It's like someone saying they would help you the next day, but they decide to not help you because it affects them. I agree with this quote because Canada is just like a student in a class. Each country is a student and we all have to work together to stop these greenhouse gases. I think that everyone in this world should take a part in saving the Earth. The greenhouse emissions should decrease, not increase.

Megan R

Sault College , Sault Ste. Marie , Ontario
Ms. Mio
When Ms. Leslie says “It’s like we’re a kid who’s failing the class so we have to drop it before that happens.” She is pretty much saying we are going to pull out of the Kyoto Protocol before we completely fail, making our country look worse than it already does when dealing with this situation, and putting money into something that is not even worth our while, when we could be putting it into other ways to help our country become more eco-friendly. I do agree with her comparison as we were seen as failing in this project, and before we get too much over our heads, get out of it while we can. I think that the government made a good decision by pulling out because it is a lot of money wasted for not being able to keep up with the agreement at all. We will, as a country, still work on making this place a healthier, eco-friendly place but at the same time, we do not need to sign an agreement to do so.

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